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Re: Clicksaver Guide for "Dummies" (Incomplete/Lacking

Post by Saavick » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:37 pm

You can, but only very few implants are actually rollable. The ones that are rollable are mostly bad ones, such as the smg/parry/nanodelta right arm ;)
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Re: Clicksaver Guide for "Dummies" (Incomplete/Lacking

Post by hybridyak » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:39 pm

This is not the news I was hoping for :D
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Re: Clicksaver Guide for "Dummies" (Incomplete/Lacking

Post by Saavick » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:42 pm

On the bright side, refined clusters and basic implants are not very rare to roll :)
Still it's a lot of missions to blitz :o
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Re: Clicksaver Guide for "Dummies" (Incomplete/Lacking

Post by hybridyak » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:06 pm

Grabbed all the regular refined clusters I needed pretty quickly... its the Jobes I'm now after. I guess I need to farm merc mobs then? What was your strategy Saav?
Going offtopic though :D
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Re: Clicksaver Guide for "Dummies" (Incomplete/Lacking

Post by Saavick » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:07 am

hybridyak wrote:Grabbed all the regular refined clusters I needed pretty quickly... its the Jobes I'm now after. I guess I need to farm merc mobs then? What was your strategy Saav?
I had about half of the ones I need from RK missions. The other half I bought (or asked a 220 trader to buy rather). That was... not cheap :o :)
hybridyak wrote:Going offtopic though :D
Yes! Bad! Better not let the mods see it :D
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Vladja 200 agent Meany 200 fixer Littlemeany 200 adventurer Skathi 200 soldier
Nuclearmeany 190 nano-technician Sunilda 182 meta-physicist Boesemueny 179 trader
Luettl 170 bureaucrat Haadriah 163 martial artist Mueny 136 meta-physicist
Ryahna 131 adventurer Whaaaaaa 122 bureaucrat Wildmeany 100 adventurer
Svanhvita 100 engineer Kvada 80 enforcer Babysaav 66 doctor Vladdy 64 trader
Achilla 60 soldier Angrymueny 60 fixer Ealhswith 56 agent
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Re: Clicksaver Guide for "Dummies" (Incomplete/Lacking

Post by Trappin » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:10 am

The whole guide needs a major update, but in the meantime here's a fun tidbit:

https://web.archive.org/web/20070216213 ... lity.html/

Interesting Rollability Facts


Items not included in ClickSaver 3.0.0 Tiny.cdb
Once in a while an item lands in the rollability tables although it doesn't make much sense that it should be there.
A recent example of this is QL180Nano Crystal (Brain Freeze), a Nodrop crat nano that is traditionally obtained as Pen Xan quest reward. Why is it rollable while the rest of the professions must do the quest to obtain it? Mystery.
Anyway, as of Jan 10 2010 I've rolled it in RK2 as item-to-find and mission reward.

Since this item is not included in the Tiny.cdb bundled with ClickSaver 3.0.0, by default you can only roll it as item-to-find, unless you use an all-items All.cdb or add this string to the "Items" tab, that allows to roll it as reward:
<hid=269448>

Previous examples, already retired from the rollability tables are:

Nano Crystal (Pet Attention) - 21-Aug-2007 - QL100, Rollable in patch 17.5.1
Nano Crystal (Pet Steal Back) - 21-Aug-2007 - QL100, Rollable in patch 17.5.1
Nano Crystal (Improved Pet Attention) - 21-Aug-2007 - QL215, Rollable in patch 17.5.1
Nano Crystal (Improved Pet Steal Back) - 21-Aug-2007 - QL215, Rollable in patch 17.5.1


You must use double quotes around a few items if you want to roll them in ClickSaver:

"Compu-Seeker Long Axe -Y1000" , "Compu-Seeker Long Axe -Y2000" etc
"Yatamutchy Movement Predictor -X7B" and "Yatamutchy Movement Predictor -Xl1"
"Map Reader Upgrade -Directional Arrow", although this is easier to find in the shop. :)


Why? Because if you're trying to roll a Compu-Seeker Long Axe -Y3000 for instance, with the string Compu-Seeker Long Axe -Y3000 you're actually telling ClickSaver to discard items that contain Y3000 in their names.

In the latter case you should be using "Compu-Seeker Long Axe -Y3000" -manual. Note the -manual bit to avoid rolling a Compu-Seeker Long Axe -Y3000 Construction Manual.


You can use some nanoformulas from other professions by rolling and hacking the Boosted-Graft of your choice. Boosted-Grafts are better (and more demanded) than Symbio-Grafts because they lock skills for less time.


Most Nanocrystals are rollable in any mission in the QL-10 ... QL+10 range.
There are a few exceptions I've found in a wider range. Check them in the database for more details:

QL239 Nano Crystal (Anima of The Abomination) to-find in QL250 mission (QLdif=11)
QL70 Nano Crystal (Sneaking Terror) rewarded/to-find in QL90 mission (QLdif=20)
QL60 Nano Crystal (A Clear Sense of Scheol) rewarded/to-find in QL74 mission (QLdif=14)
QL37 Nano Crystal (Mind Scream) rewarded/to-find in QL60 mission (QLdif=23)
QL30 Nano Crystal (Overview of Elysium) rewarded/to-find in QL45 mission (QLdif=15)

These are found really far from their QL:
QL132 Nano Crystal (Greater Hold Victim) rewarded/to-find in missions around QL80
QL83 Nano Crystal (Hold Victim) rewarded/to-find in missions around QL130



The high QL (125-250) health and nano recharge kits are available as mission rewards, not easy to roll though:

Sitting: Advanced Nano Rechargers , HQ Health Laboratories , Purge Nano Kits , Virus Scanners and Shadowlands' Coils
Sitting in-battle: Battle Prepared Nano and Health kits
Usable standing: First-Aid Kits , Sophisticated Nano Kits , Free Movement Kits and Shadowland's Spindles



The following rollable items are always in high demand in the trade channels:

Basic Implants. They're rare under QL200, but common over QL200 (Refined).
Omni-Med Suit parts, NCU Memories and QL160-ish Belt Component Platform 6K-X are available as mission reward.
QL10-ish Concrete Cushions are available either as item-to-find or mission reward



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