Xbox360 vs PS3
i would'nt buy neither.. when i was younger i was a console junkie.. but now for me.. it's all about the computer they've come a long way and although the consoles are taking on very pc like qualities and can keep up with even expensive pimped out gaming rigs i still rather have a pc.
nothing wrong with consoles of course i just feel the money is better spent on a pc.
if i had to choose though it would be the xbox 360 hands down.. ps3 is overpriced pos that i've seen (at least when it was first relasesd) lock up repeatedly several different units (i think it uses win95 for it's os or something). maybe it was a short term design problem and it's fixed.. i dunno.. but the graphics was'nt even that great for it's mammoth price tag.
get more bang for your console buck with the xbox 360 imo.. but like i said i'd rather have a new pimpin fast video card or a cpu upgrade for my computer.
nothing wrong with consoles of course i just feel the money is better spent on a pc.
if i had to choose though it would be the xbox 360 hands down.. ps3 is overpriced pos that i've seen (at least when it was first relasesd) lock up repeatedly several different units (i think it uses win95 for it's os or something). maybe it was a short term design problem and it's fixed.. i dunno.. but the graphics was'nt even that great for it's mammoth price tag.
get more bang for your console buck with the xbox 360 imo.. but like i said i'd rather have a new pimpin fast video card or a cpu upgrade for my computer.
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well i don't care. as long as i'll be able to play GT5 and KZ2, that's all it matters.
GT5
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25722.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25141.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24097.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24083.html
not to forget to mention that some of the GT5 videos are old and yet it looks really good, i can't wait until the real game releases with crisper shadows and fixed rearview mirrors.
KZ2
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24243.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24220.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24214.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24079.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24038.html
Every time i look at the cut scenes in Mass effect, it looks nice. but whenever i look at the game play, i don't want to play it anymore. But i'll just wait until it comes out i guess.
GT5
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25722.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25141.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24097.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24083.html
not to forget to mention that some of the GT5 videos are old and yet it looks really good, i can't wait until the real game releases with crisper shadows and fixed rearview mirrors.
KZ2
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24243.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24220.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24214.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24079.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24038.html
Every time i look at the cut scenes in Mass effect, it looks nice. but whenever i look at the game play, i don't want to play it anymore. But i'll just wait until it comes out i guess.
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Matter of preference for the Vote yes, thats all votes are, is preference. But in a matter of facts the 360>PS3Flaggelum1 wrote:Wow, its really close 9 votes for the 360 and 8 for the ps3. Its very close. IMO, its something that there is no winner its just a matter of preference.

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Now now anvil, you have to remember that the 20% you are thinking of were games specifically produced for the ps3 where as most games are made for the PC/360 b/c they are older platforms so dev's know the abilities of them better. In the long run, this *should* change because of the "power" that the ps3 supposedly has. That being said...graphics dont make a game (with a few expections) id rather play a game with dated graphics thats 10x more fun to play than a game with hyper-realistic graphics's.Anvilbreaker wrote:[mod snippity] ...the PS3 has a few games with great graphics, but 80% of the other games i've seen compared to 360, the 360 comes on top.
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This isn't about content of the games...it's about the game system itself which graphics is a main part ofBudlevis wrote:Now now anvil, you have to remember that the 20% you are thinking of were games specifically produced for the ps3 where as most games are made for the PC/360 b/c they are older platforms so dev's know the abilities of them better. In the long run, this *should* change because of the "power" that the ps3 supposedly has. That being said...graphics dont make a game (with a few expections) id rather play a game with dated graphics thats 10x more fun to play than a game with hyper-realistic graphics's.Anvilbreaker wrote: [mod snippity] ...the PS3 has a few games with great graphics, but 80% of the other games i've seen compared to 360, the 360 comes on top.

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yeah let's not forget that the 360 is using old coding and it's been out longer for devs to work on while the cell is completely new and not many people know how to unlock it's true potential yet and yet the graphics of the ps3 looks the same as 360. i can't wait until devs can finally learn more about using the cell then they can unlock ps3's true graphical power.
ya usually the best graphics come at the end of the consoles life, thats all the more reason to either buy neither of them or buy the xbox 360..
you've basicly got 3 main ingredients that go into making or breaking a console..
1. price
2. game library (how many game it has and how many are in development)
3. market share
price: it's simple if a console is in direct competition with another the one with a lower price (say by 25% or less) has a edge on the market, like wise a console can completely price it's self out of the market.. there have been a few examples of this in the past.. although it's not the only factor it can be a make or break one..
3do, jaguar, & virtual boy come to mind.. and sega game gear to a lesser extent.. all of those had other problems or factors working against them but price was one of them esp in the case of the 3do
game library: people dont buy consoles to look at.. they buy them to playgames, (although now days some even buy them to hack)..
It's of the utmost importance not only to have a diverse and expansive selection of games for the console but also active development on new ones, in addition the more developers you can lock into exclusive contracts the better esp if they have popular game series.. remember when squaresoft shifted from nintendo to sony?
market share: simply put how many other people have the console compared to it's competitors?; It's popularity.
This is usually combination of games, price, length of time on the market, and of course it's current market share.
Popularity/Market share feeds on other elements but also on it self..
think of it like this.. if the majority of your friends have a console.. you're more likely to buy that same one over another less popular console.. either by peer pressure, trying to keep up with the jones, or simply the practicality of having the same console means sharing games and other items, Or it could simply be that you've grown acustom or experienced / familiar and desire to buy one your self.
Length of time on the market, it helps the console the longer it is on the market this is especially true if it has beaten it's competitors to the market.. having the next generation console on the market just 3 or 6 months ahead of the competition can build a user base, game development and market share momentum, all those factors build on them selves.
console history is rich with examples of these 3 main elements playing in the rise and fall of a console.
sure there other things to consider.. but in general (and this is my theory based on history)
if a console is lacking in more then 1 of those areas.. it almost assuredly will fail.. or if not fail limp on and never reach glory.
with this in mind i'd conclude the xbox 360 will win in the end.. MS beat Sony to market, xbox has market share, xbox has larger library of games, xbox has it beat in price..
the only area ps3 has over the xbox currently (that im aware of please correct me if im wrong cause like i said im not a console junkie anymore)
is in hardware, yes hardware wise the ps3 is superior, however hardware is nothing on it's own..
graphics and hardware do not always win.. the best example i can think of to support this is look how long the original game boy was around.. look at it's specs.. to call it humble would probably be a understatement.. however it have the right combination of games, and price that won over the superior hardware of the game gear.. (personally i liked the game gear more, but games and price simply overwhelmed it in some areas costing twice that of gameboy.)
the game gear limped on.. never really failing it just never reached it's glory...
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P.s, why did i write all that
you've basicly got 3 main ingredients that go into making or breaking a console..
1. price
2. game library (how many game it has and how many are in development)
3. market share
price: it's simple if a console is in direct competition with another the one with a lower price (say by 25% or less) has a edge on the market, like wise a console can completely price it's self out of the market.. there have been a few examples of this in the past.. although it's not the only factor it can be a make or break one..
3do, jaguar, & virtual boy come to mind.. and sega game gear to a lesser extent.. all of those had other problems or factors working against them but price was one of them esp in the case of the 3do
game library: people dont buy consoles to look at.. they buy them to playgames, (although now days some even buy them to hack)..
It's of the utmost importance not only to have a diverse and expansive selection of games for the console but also active development on new ones, in addition the more developers you can lock into exclusive contracts the better esp if they have popular game series.. remember when squaresoft shifted from nintendo to sony?
market share: simply put how many other people have the console compared to it's competitors?; It's popularity.
This is usually combination of games, price, length of time on the market, and of course it's current market share.
Popularity/Market share feeds on other elements but also on it self..
think of it like this.. if the majority of your friends have a console.. you're more likely to buy that same one over another less popular console.. either by peer pressure, trying to keep up with the jones, or simply the practicality of having the same console means sharing games and other items, Or it could simply be that you've grown acustom or experienced / familiar and desire to buy one your self.
Length of time on the market, it helps the console the longer it is on the market this is especially true if it has beaten it's competitors to the market.. having the next generation console on the market just 3 or 6 months ahead of the competition can build a user base, game development and market share momentum, all those factors build on them selves.
console history is rich with examples of these 3 main elements playing in the rise and fall of a console.
sure there other things to consider.. but in general (and this is my theory based on history)
if a console is lacking in more then 1 of those areas.. it almost assuredly will fail.. or if not fail limp on and never reach glory.
with this in mind i'd conclude the xbox 360 will win in the end.. MS beat Sony to market, xbox has market share, xbox has larger library of games, xbox has it beat in price..
the only area ps3 has over the xbox currently (that im aware of please correct me if im wrong cause like i said im not a console junkie anymore)
is in hardware, yes hardware wise the ps3 is superior, however hardware is nothing on it's own..
graphics and hardware do not always win.. the best example i can think of to support this is look how long the original game boy was around.. look at it's specs.. to call it humble would probably be a understatement.. however it have the right combination of games, and price that won over the superior hardware of the game gear.. (personally i liked the game gear more, but games and price simply overwhelmed it in some areas costing twice that of gameboy.)
the game gear limped on.. never really failing it just never reached it's glory...
David really did kill Goliath.
P.s, why did i write all that

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WorldTrader wrote:Xbox 360 has better built-in graphics rendering. I'm a console developer.
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