I dont know what exactly you are trying to say here, but...Bednarz3 wrote:I was talk with lot of MAs i ws have 3 MA chars this opne is highest lowest is 163.
I ws all time think how get better dmg and i was wana try it on my self and i have now 2 attacks with wep and 3rd with fists! That is realy good when i crit 2.2 with wep and 3.1 fist but my dmg is not best i ahve friend MA Hurjajrope trox he use sticks to he hit 2.4 wep 3.4 fist (i dont remember good)
I have friend Supreme0 <MA trox (Expansions) And that guy rocks he have so good dmg on high llv you have a lot of ip and you can just try it on your self MA fists is middle dmg i think its not best (now i think about try HAzaringe claws) Good luck (Sry for bad englisch i hope you will understand)
And when i was dont have 175llv i was take aggro form MA 195llv froob easy Shanadvy was see it And i still think that weapon is good.
First of all, if you use only your fists you´ll attack 26 Times / Minute if you are 1/1. Now if you use a weapon that can be dualed with you "ma item" (just like Torturing Tool, Parry Sticks, any kind of Claw or with expansions BoBs or Shen Sticks) you´ll attack 40 Times / Minute on 1/1. Problem is, thats the max - so if you dual wield Parry Sticks like you, you dont get more attacks or anything out of that. And as the ao-game engine prefers Weapons over ma you will actually loose dmg instead of getting more.
So if you want to use a weapons to get more dmg, use only one and you fists. Then you´ll do theoretically more damage-over-time. I said theoretically because of a few other problems: unless you have expanions and can get a Bob/Shen Stick there are none weapons with pure ma-attack skill; Parry Stick Torturing Tool...all of them have a splitted ar of 1hb/MA. That means you´ll have less AR than with you fists and that results in many more "missed hits" especially against highlevel mobs. So overall you´ll probably do less dmg again as if you were using only fists.
I dont say Parry Stick / TT etc are totally useless. They are useful in some situations - you can, for example, triple implant heal delta / body deff, use evade setup + 2 Parry Sticks and you´ll end up with 1500+ Evade Clsc; thats enough to afk-kill most of the 200+ rk dynas - funny, aint it?
But for a pure dmg-releated setup and a lets call it "everyday life" setup its fists 4tw in my opinion.